turning night into day

thanks to the new energy bill, daylight-savings time will be extended by a month. do we really need longer days for longer?

i was reading this article and the people interviewed make it sound like the passing of this bill creates more light. no. it just shifts the clock around.

Markey said longer daylight-saving time could also reduce crime by depriving criminals of the cover of darkness for more of the evening and reduce traffic fatalities.

that is probably the worst argument in favor of this change. crime will not be reduced by a shift in time. criminals will conduct themselves an hour earlier or later. but the hope is that the criminals will keep their lights turned off later in the evening.

A federal study estimated energy savings would equal 100,000 barrels of oil per day, or about 1 percent of the nation’s daily oil consumption. Most of that would come from unused electricity, because lights would not have to be turned on until later in the evening.

the lights that aren’t turned on in the evening, will be turned on in the morning as it will pitch black out when johnny and susie have to get ready to go to school.

one of the arguments against the dst extension was the fact that children would be walking to the bus in the dark (i.e. it’s dangerous in the dark). give the kids flashlights. or have school start later, since they aren’t learning anything when they go anyway.

while saving 100,000 barrels of oil is a good thing, it’s a grasp at straws. we should be concentrating less on daylight-savings and more on not using oil at all.

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11 Responses to turning night into day

  1. shedubeard says:

    Wrong, wrong and yes indeed.

    Criminals don’t like light. They get caught more often in light. An hour more light is an hour less of prefered robbing time before businesses close. (As for traffic, the quantity of motorists decreases more according to the time of day rather than light and people don’t hit each other as much or as hard when they can see better)

    Johnny and Susie my turn on the lights in the morning, but before it gets light out they will be on a bus or in a school and mommy and daddy will be in their cars going to work. The net daily energy use would in fact be less.

    Most importantly, we should indeed be solving the problem. Yes, saving energy is good, but like you said we need to eliminate our dependency. If our consumption today never grew and we saved 1% during one month of every year for a century, we would have saved enough for just one more month.

  2. st. mary's 7 says:

    Ok, are you retarded? Did not actually read the blog? There will not be “an hour more light”…there will be, as was stated quite correctly in the original post, a shift in time. And do you think that maybe the bus or the school may need to use some lights? Listen, I’m not necessarily disagreeing here, just proposing that many things are not as black and white as “wrong, wrong and yes indeed.”

  3. Stemshul says:

    Dont forget the hispanics.

  4. shedubeard says:

    I’ll explain this as simply as I can. There will be an hour less light in the morning and an hour more light in the evening. This is in fact a shift in time. The “hour more light” was relative to the evening; you know, when robbers do most of their robbing. I apologize for not making that implication more obvious.

    Also, using a dozen lights in a bus carrying just 20 kids consumes less energy than those same 20 kids would consume at home. The same simple relation exists between 1 school room and 20 homes. It’s all about efficiency.

    And now for the politically correct summary:
    “In my opinion, he started with an incomplete examination of the potential effects of this bill on crime, followed by a over-simplified analysis of a federal study, yet concluded with a valid point regarding the misdirected focus of our government.”

    i.e. wrong, wrong, and yes indeed.

  5. shedubeard says:

    …or the asians.

  6. katohater says:

    ok, but those kids don’t go directly from their beds to the school bus. they have to get ready, eat breakfast, finish homework, etc. so i really don’t see how this is saving enough electricity to justify doing it.

    and let’s stop talking about the damn kids. what about the adults? when adults have to get up, they turn lights on. but it’s not like it will be any different from how it is now. in the morning, the sun is not up enough to go without using artificial lighting. regardless of daylight-savings time, morning lights will always go on.

    which brings us back to the evening. how many people will honestly keep their lights off for an extra hour because there will be slightly more outdoor light. people who do stuff outside will, but i don’t think indoor dwellers will turn their lights off just because there is some extra sunlight poking in through the mini-blinds at 9pm.

    i mean, this is what clearly makes this dst extension so ridiculous. it’s justified by the illusion that people will do the right thing. that based on a tiny bit of evidence, human behavior will follow the correct path of conservation. well, i’m just trying to show that the argument can just as easily go the other way. and since this energy bill is one step away from being official, we’ll just have to wait and see if we can hit our 1% target.

    as far as “wrong, wrong, and yes indeed.” is concerned… i don’t care if it’s politically incorrect or not, it’s just plain stupid. why? because it assumes that we know what the hell you are talking about, and we don’t. i had no clue which three of my points you were trying to cite. until you explained yourself, and thereby making the original simplification redundant.

    what i’m trying to say here, shedubeard, is that i hate your fucking style.

  7. shedubeard says:

    You know even better than I that being right is always in style.

  8. st. mary's 7 says:

    You are not wrong, you are not right…you made three points that were your opinions. That’s great. But just because you have a strong opinion about something, it doesn’t mean that you are right. By making such assertions about your being so right, you actually sound ignorant and defensive. Katohater is right, stop hiding behind your “style” and your “devil’s advocacy” and tell us how you really feel.

  9. shedubeard says:

    I’m ok with someone calling me retarded, ignorant and defensive to discredit my statements – b/c it’s irrelevant when assessing my reasoning. It is however very funny, especially since it’s at my expense.

    How do I really feel? I feel like there is too much focus on my lack of tact as opposed to having a rational discussion on the issue. Self included.

    “It don’t matter. None of this matters.”

  10. st. mary's 7 says:

    Case closed. You’re awesome! I’m awesome! Everyone’s awesome! Yeah!!!!

  11. Stemshul says:

    GAY! I hate white people.